Tag: Referendum

  • A smack or time out for correction should not be a crime

    A smack or time out for correction should not be a crime

    Kiwi Party Press Release 28 July 2009

    The Referendum about the so called “anti-smacking” law (the name which Sue Bradford herself originally gave to her Bill) is really about how children should be corrected according to former MP & now President of the Kiwi Party Gordon Copeland.

    Smacking and taking a child to time out are now criminal acts in New Zealand’ said Mr Copeland. “But only when they are used for the purpose of correction that is to rebuke,  in order to improve a child’s behaviour”.

    “At the heart of this debate therefore there are really two questions.
    Firstly do children need to be corrected?”

    “Most of us would answer this question with an emphatic “yes”. However  some would just as emphatically answer “no” because they believe that children are  born virtuous and will automatically, as if by instinct, grow up to become unselfish & loving adults!  I believe, with the wisdom of the ages, that  both children & and adults need to be corrected.”

    “Secondly should parents be permitted by law to smack or take their children to time out as part of good & loving parenting?”

    “I believe that the answer to this question is also yes. Note that, consistent with the Referendum question, the qualification is that we are here talking about these correction techniques used by good parents. I am not saying that hitting with a jug cord or locking a child in a dark room are acceptable correction techniques, because they are not! Those are the actions of bad parents who need to be corrected (there’s that word again) by the law of the land”.

    “Are we capable of making that distinction clear in law? Of course we are and we should. The training, education and correction of children, accompanied by large lashings of love & good fun, are the central tasks of parenting. Simply stated that is what good parents do!”

    “When it comes to correction parents should have the freedom, under the law, to use a variety of ways to achieve the outcome which they seek, namely an improvement in behaviour, in ways which are appropriate to the circumstances & age of the child. This includes appropriate verbal correction, smacking, timeout and as the child grows older, grounding & the loss of privileges. Parenting on a day by day basis is never one dimensional.”

    “I believe that these decisions must be made by parents and by parents alone! The State has no role to play and it is wrong for politicians to outlaw smacking and the use of time out in these circumstances. They have no mandate to do so. This matter was not widely raised in the 2005 Elections.  The issue made its way onto the floor of Parliament through a private Members Bill.”

    “The claim that smacking and time out should be criminalised to bring the correction of children into line with the correction of adults is a fallacy.”

    “We correct adults through fines, community service and prison sentences but none of these apply to children for the simple reason that they are children! The law always has & always will make that distinction.”

    “I’m delighted that there is to be a Referendum on this issue and the question “Should a smack as part of good parental correction be a criminal offence in New Zealand” is crystal clear. Let’s use the opportunity to deliver a message to the Beehive which politicians will ignore at their peril because this issue really is for the sake of our children, our grandchildren & all generations to come.”

    Gordon Copeland is a former MP who left United Future to become an Independent because of his strong opposition to the criminalisation of smacking and time out for the purposes of correcting children.
    Contact:
    Phone 04 388 9805
    Cell 027 472 6998

  • FAMILY FIRST – Campbell Live Debate

    In case you missed it….

    TV3’s Campbell Live tonight featured Bob McCoskrie – Family First, Anton Blank – from Te Kahui Mana Ririki; Sheryll Savill – the instigator of the referendum itself; and the chief executive of Barnados New Zealand Murray Edridge

    http://www.3news.co.nz/The-referendum-begins-should-you-vote-yes-or-no/tabid/367/articleID/114573/cat/41/Default.aspx (16’43”)

    You can also comment on TV3’s website here
    http://www.3news.co.nz/Online-debate—the-smacking-referendum/tabid/1153/articleID/114365/cat/980/Default.aspx

    Kind regards

    Family First Team

    Got a comment on this issue? Email feedback@familyfirst.org.nz

    http://www.familyfirst.org.nz

  • Voters Not Confused by Referendum

    MEDIA RELEASE

    31 July  2009

    Voters Not Confused by Referendum

    Family First NZ says that the record number of registered voters for the Referendum shows that there is no confusion about the Referendum question.

    “Sue Bradford has continued her attack on democracy and Referendums by insulting NZ’ers and saying they’ll vote yes when they mean no and vice versa. But it’s quite simple really – if you oppose the anti-smacking law, vote no – if you support the anti-smacking law, vote yes. What’s hard about that?” says Bob McCoskrie, National Director of Family First NZ.

    “Even government funded groups who have attacked the question still have been able to figure out how to vote!”

    “The attempts by politicians to attack the question and to threaten to disregard the result of the Referendum has actually had the opposite effect to what they possibly intended. It has rarked up voters because they feel like it’s more of the previous ‘we know better than you and we’re not listening’ attitude. NZ’ers hoped that we had moved on from that approach.”

    “Because of this message, it is even more important that voters return their voting forms and send a strong message to the politicians on this issue.”

    “The Citizens Initiated Referenda Act 1993 was introduced by politicians to allow NZ’ers to have a say on important issues. The people have met the very high benchmark set to have their say. The politicians must listen,” says Mr McCoskrie.

    ENDS

    For More Information and Media Interviews, contact Family First:

    Bob McCoskrieNational Director

    Mob. 027 55 555 42


  • U4L: Evil Destruction of a Family

    U4L: Evil Destruction of a Family

    Is this a glimpse into New Zealand’s future?

    I have received this link to a very disturbing article titled “Evil Destruction of a Family” from the UK.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5858902/Evil-destruction-of-a-happy-family.html

    As you read this article, I would also like you to consider the parallel with a situation that did happen in NZ (no where near as serious as the UK experience, but very concerning), since the anti smacking law came into effect.

    # Child has mind polluted from a police visit at their local school, subject was the anti-smacking law.

    # Child wakes up next morning saying, I am not going to school and you can’t make me. \Mmother then asks where this came from. Answer: “police visit at school”

    # Mother goes to Police Station and makes inquiry, “Now that you have undermined my authority as a parent how are we going to reinstate it”. Police agree to a home visit to put things straight.

    # Remember, at no point has this mother broken any law.

    # Before visiting her home, Police spend several days investigating her record through different agencies. She has now been investigated for just an inquiry.

    # Police visit, attack her parenting skills reducing her to tears, and then reinforce their original message from the school visit.

    # Mother feels she has been mistreated and decides to inform her local MP.

    #  A short time later, a senior police officer phones her saying “You shouldn’t be going to your MP and stop wasting his time”.

    # Media not interested in story

    Regards
    Craig Hill
    021746113
    http://www.unityforliberty.net.nz

    Remember, “All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing” (Edmund Burke 1729-1797)

  • U4L: The referendum is now upon us

    U4L: The referendum is now upon us


    Hi All,

    Over the past few months Unity for Liberty has chosen to remain silent concerning the referendum.

    There are a few simple reasons for this, firstly, the issue has been well represented by Family First and other prominent organizations and secondly, we wanted to know exactly what we are up against (It is now very clear, our Prime Minister and the rest of the anti-smackers are singing from the same song sheet: “Tell a lie long enough and everyone will start believing it”).

    The Prime Minister also referred to the Referendum question as something out of Dr Seuss. Should we remind him about the story of the Emperor’s invisible clothes, where those who were told that they could not see it were ignorant. In this case, if we don’t understand the how badly worded the question is, then we too must be ignorant.

    I am tired of having my intelligence insulted, ARE YOU?

    Here’s the problem with the question: for many years (and at tax payers expense) those with a political agenda for social engineering have been promoting the lie that a smack as part of good parental correction is assault. They realize that the referendum question undermines that untruth and it’s associated brainwashing.

    Clearly, attacking the wording of the question is just a disparate attempt to divert the focus away from real issue and create confusion. The real agenda was never about combating child abuse (since admitted by Sue Bradford),  but by confusing good parental correction as assault they are then able to (by law) remove Parental Authority away from the parent, thus, by default, that very same authority then goes to the “STATE”.

    The referendum question is not badly worded, it is only guilty of undermining the very heart of the uprising Socialist Ideology within New Zealand.

    Here’s our problem, mainstream New Zealand knows their mind on this issue, we just need to remind them to vote. Over the next few weeks, we need to provide a presence within our own local communities so to encourage folk to return their voting papers.

    We invite you to join with us and deliver as many pamphlets as possible within our own neighborhoods,  We will also be setting up tables again encouraging folk to vote.

    Go to “VOTE NO” for pamphlets and other information http://www.voteno.org.nz/

    Against all the odds, it was people power that brought us success with the petition, and with a little more effort we can also bring a successful and proper conclusion to the referendum.

    If anyone is unsure on how to reach your local community, please feel free to contact myself for encouragement.

    Thank You,
    Craig Hill
    021746113
    http://www.unityforliberty.net.nz

    Remember, All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing (Edmund Burke 1729-1797)

  • Sheryl Savill and Bob McCoskrie on TVNZ this morning

    Sheryl Savill and Bob McCoskrie

    on TVNZ this morning

    Q+A’s Paul Holmes interviewed Sheryl Savill from Focus on the Family and Family First NZ’s Bob McCoskrie on the smacking referendum this morning on TVNZ.

    You can view the full interview here:
    http://tvnz.co.nz/q-and-a-news/q-paul-holmes-interviews-cheryl-savill-and-bob-mccroskie-2871394/video

    You can  read the transcript here
    http://tvnz.co.nz/q-and-a-news/q-paul-holmes-interviews-cheryl-savill-and-bob-mccroskie-2871394

    Got a comment on this issue or like to give us feedback? Email feedback@familyfirst.org.nz

    http://www.familyfirst.org.nz

  • Of those planning to vote, an overwhelming 85.4 percent said they would vote “no” to the question: “Should a smack as part of good parental correction be a criminal offence in New Zealand?”

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2673872/Fewer-parents-smack-today-than-in-past-poll

    Fewer parents smack today than in past – poll

    Last updated 09:44 25/07/2009
    Fewer New Zealand parents smack their children today than in past decades, according to results of a poll released today. A non-binding citizens-initiated referendum on whether smacking should remain a criminal offence is due to held from next Friday to August 21. A Weekend Herald-DigiPoll poll of 200 parents of four-year-olds found that 9 percent of mothers and 8 percent of fathers smacked their children at least one a week. The figures were significantly down from those contained in four surveys by Waikato University psychologists Jane and James Ritchie from 1963 to 1997. The Ritchies found that about half of all parents of four-year-olds through those 3½ decades smacked their children at least once a week. The Digipoll results also show that two-thirds of both mothers and fathers still smack occasionally, despite the law change two years ago banning the use of force against children for the purpose of correction. However, the number who never smacked, which remained below 10 percent in the Ritchies' studies, had jumped to 39 percent of mothers and 33 percent of fathers. The poll also found that 78.5 percent of the parents questioned planned to vote in the referendum, with 14 percent saying they wouldn't be taking part and the rest unsure. Of those planning to vote, an overwhelming 85.4 percent said they would vote "no" to the question: "Should a smack as part of good parental correction be a criminal offence in New Zealand?" Only 10.8 percent indicated they would vote "yes". Green MP Sue Bradford, who promoted the 2007 law change, said the fall in the smacking rate was positive. "I think that's a fantastic sign of hope for the future of our nation that there has been such a dramatic shift in the last 12 years," she told the Herald. But Family First New Zealand national director Bob McCoskrie, who is urging a "no" vote at the referendum, said the poll showed that many parents were continuing to flout the law. "Parents are ignoring the law because they simply don't agree with it and because it is so confusing," he said. "But what is most significant in this latest poll is that even parents who choose not to smack are opposed to it being criminalised." - NZPA

  • Family Integrity #464 — McCoskrie Meeting invitation

    Family Integrity #464 — McCoskrie Meeting invitation

    See below.

    Craig & Barbara Smith

    https://mail.google.com/a/hef.org.nz/?ui=2&ik=ab0eb6de71&view=att&th=1228704fdcc4a095&attid=0.1&disp=inline&zw