Tag: CIR Petition

  • Family Integrity #483 — We Need Your Feet!

    A special request.

    We need you! – your energy – and your networking ability – to get the message out!

    The March for Democracy will be held
    1.30pm Sat 21 November, Queen St Auckland


    and will be calling on the government to amend s59 of the Crimes Act so that the law does not treat light smacking for the purpose of correction as a criminal offence, and to respect the democratic voice of NZ’ers.

    Please mark this date in your diaries as we make a stand for families and for democracy in New Zealand.

    Would you please consider distributing this info amongst your contacts and spreading the word?

    Colin Craig, an Auckland businessman who is funding the march, says “I find it deeply disturbing that such a clear message from the people of this country to government has been ignored. My forefathers fought for a democracy and in a democracy the government does not pass and retain laws that nearly 90% of the people don’t want. It is my turn to help fight for the rights of ordinary New Zealanders.”

    He’s absolutely right – but he’s not just moaning about it.

    He’s putting his money where his mouth is. He wants to host the biggest public march NZ has seen – and we need to get in behind him.

    When families speak with such a loud and united voice, as they have on the issue of the anti-smacking law, the politicians must not be allowed to ignore it. It is significant that politicians are willing to accept democracy when it is to their benefit but are willing to blatantly ignore it when it highlights wrong decisions. Voters clearly called for a law change – not comfort and more reviews of a rejected law change.

    An average of 83% in the polls over the past 4 years have consistently opposed the anti-smacking law. The high threshold of 285,000 signatures was met for having the Referendum (in fact 310,000 valid signatures in the end), 87.4% of those who voted supported the law change, and yet within a couple of hours, the result was completely dismissed.

    A Private Members Bill by ACT MP John Boscawen drawn just 3 days later, against all the odds, was then unilaterally ‘kicked for touch’ by the Prime Minister.

    This is now far greater than just the smacking issue. It’s an issue of democracy in New Zealand, and the dismissal of the views of an overwhelming majority of voters by our elected representatives.

    It may not be the smacking issue that ‘presses your button’. But imagine if an issue you were passionate about – that had the overwhelming support of the public – was simply ignored, belittled, and dismissed by the politicians. Is that the kind of representative democracy we want?

    It appears that political parties are keen to accept petitions in their favour – United Future on daylight saving,  Labour on night-classes – and support binding Referendums – National on MMP, Labour on the Super City, and the Greens on the Monarchy – but when it’s a Citizen’s Initiated Referendum, they suddenly go deaf!

    Families need to speak up for democracy – and this is our opportunity.

    Official Website : www.themarch.co.nz

    Thanks for your consideration.

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  • PUBLIC MEETING in Hamilton TONIGHT: ‘The way forward on Section 59’

    PUBLIC MEETING TONIGHT


    ‘The way forward on


    Section 59′


    Tonight in  Hamilton , (and next week in Dargaville) you’re invited to a continuation of a series of meetings around the country….


    Speakers
    * Bob McCoskrie – Family First Target Real Child Abuse, Not Real Parents ( HAMILTON ONLY )
    * John Boscawen – ACT MP – Promoter of the Boscawen amendment, previously the Chester Borrows amendment
    * Larry Baldock – Kiwi Party
    – Promoter of the Referendum
    Also invited are the local Members of Parliament.


    HAMILTON
    TONIGHT
    7.30 p.m.
    Hamilton Central Baptist Church, 33 Charlemont Street, Hamilton
    CLICK HERE FOR MAP OF LOCATION


    DARGAVILLE
    Monday 12 October, 7.00 p.m.
    Dargaville Town Hall, 37 Hokianga Road, DARGAVILLE
    CLICK HERE FOR MAP OF LOCATION


  • John Armstrong: National won’t be smacked twice

    John Armstrong: National won’t be smacked twice

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10593810&pnum=0

    4:00AM Saturday Aug 29, 2009
    By John Armstrong

    No matter what spin the anti-smacking brigade puts on last week’s referendum, the result is still mind-boggling.

    The referendum’s opponents have naturally sought to downplay the 88 per cent “no” vote as not unexpected, arguing that people were confused by the referendum question which was anyway heavily loaded to increase the “no” vote, while only 56 per cent of eligible voters actually bothered to return their ballot paper.

    However, the turnout was marginally higher than that recorded in the first MMP referendum in 1992.

    In some electorates, it was as high as 66 per cent, which is the same level as that registered in the Maori electorates at the last general election and not all that far short of overall turnout, which in recent elections has hovered around the 80 per cent mark.

    The assumption of voter ignorance is the typical sort of patronising claptrap used by the liberal elites to conveniently explain away something that disturbs their comfort zones.

    Faced with predictions of mass confusion following the introduction of GST in the 1980s, a Labour MP at the time noted most people had no problems filling out a TAB betting slip which was equally complex.

    Ditto with the smacking referendum. Voters understood exactly what they were doing. Politicians ignore the outcome at their peril.

    Those in National’s senior ranks are most definitely taking note. The highest “no” votes were registered in provincial and rural seats held by that party.

    Once it was clear that the turnout was going to be much higher than predicted, the Prime Minister ensured he had a response prepared. This amounted to more monitoring of the existing law to ensure it is working as intended.

    That was obviously not going to satisfy the referendum’s organisers, who were seeking the repeal of the relevant section of the Crimes Act.

    While Sue Bradford’s amended initiative remains the law, National has taken on board the message from the referendum that voters are drawing a line in the sand against any more measures which might be termed liberal, socially progressive or nanny state-ish.

    In marked contrast, National’s reform agenda for the economy and social service delivery is meeting little resistance. For example, Bill English has now mentioned on several occasions three dreaded words that usually spell political death – “capital gains tax” – without his world caving in.

    That is not to say the Finance Minister is about to bring in such a tax.

    But the lack of opposition is emboldening the Government to move faster on the economic front than it might otherwise have done, another example being National’s willingness to allow mining of minerals on parts of the Department of Conservation estate.

    National’s shift to the right in such policy areas is one reason there is less concern within the party about Act’s current muscle-flexing over the anti-smacking law and Maori seats on the Auckland “Super City” Council.

    Act is clearly seeking to fill a gap left on the right by John Key’s relationship-building with Maoridom and his unwillingness to ditch the anti-smacking law.

    If nothing else, the politics surrounding the latter is proof there is a God – and that he or she has a sense of humour.

    How else to explain the private member’s bill promoted by Act’s John Boscawen, which allows parents to give their child a “light” smack for corrective purposes, making it onto Parliament’s order paper for debate.

    The odds on the measure securing the sole spot available were a staggering 28-1 against. Beating those odds in the ballot of private member’s bills – plus the timing just days after the referendum result – suggested divine intervention.

    The Prime Minister is said to have been torn initially between voting down Boscawen’s bill and allowing it to go as far as being scrutinised by a select committee.

    The referendum result weighed heavily on Key’s mind. However, it is understood that colleagues who had previously been supportive of legalising smacking argued for Boscawen’s bill to be killed as swiftly as possible.

    They and Key did not want the public distracted by what would have been a lengthy sideshow as MPs grappled with the complexities of defining what was acceptable and not acceptable in terms of a “light” smack.

    National is relaxed about Act getting a pay-off in the polls from Hide appearing principled by saying he would resign his Local Government portfolio rather than steer legislation through Parliament with which he could not agree.

    Act has struggled to register above 1.5 per cent support since the election, while backing for National is up to 10 percentage points higher than the party got at the ballot box last year.

    While Act appears to have decided to be less supine in its four-way relationship with National, the Maori Party and United Future, it has to ensure it does not overreach itself and become the docked tail wagging a very large National dog…….

    To read  the rest go to:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10593810&pnum=0

  • CITIZENS INITIATED REFERENDUM REPORT

    CITIZENS INITIATED REFERENDUM REPORT


    31 August, 2009

    Well, I thought you would have all had enough press releases and heard and seen enough of me in the media last week that another CIR update until now would not have been necessary.
    However, now we do need to answer the question, where to from here?

    I will be busy preparing this week for our Kiwi Party Conference this Saturday in Christchurch and I would be greatly encouraged to have any of you join us there. For details click here Conference details and registration.

    You may recall my comments in response to criticism over my involving the Kiwi Party in the referendum around the time of the elections last year, when I said that ultimately the only way we will get the law changed is if we have 61 MPs elected that will be prepared to vote to change it. I think that reality may now be clearer.

    The drawing of John Boscawen’s members bill from the ballot last Wednesday, only one day after the final results of the referendum was amazing. Some media commentators described it as miraculous, or divine intervention, but sadly it seems that more intervention is going to be needed after the Prime Minister and leader of the opposition buried it less than five hours after seeing the light of day.

    I have had discussions with a number of people already about possible action and I would very much like to hear your opinions.
    Another petition to force a referendum that would have to be held either before or at the next general election would, in my opinion, be the best way forward. Of course this requires an enormous effort and is not something I can do alone as you all know better than anyone.

    We are prohibited from seeking another referendum on the same topic by the CIR Act for a period of 5 years, but the issue has now become one of democracy in the minds of the 87.4% that voted ‘no,’ so perhaps we should use a question like “should a referendum seeking to change a law already passed by parliament be binding?”

    The press release I sent out today was really a tongue in cheek statement aimed at those who claimed our question was misleading and confusing when they attacked the connection between ‘good parenting’ and ‘smacking.’
    When you have to explain a joke it probably means it wasn’t as funny as you thought!

    On Friday I will be running some radio ads nationwide to say thanks to all those who participated in the referendum and made the no vote so successful. I will seek feedback from everyone through the www.4democracy.co.nz website on some of the possible responses we can make to the Prime Ministers rejection of the referendum result.

    Because it takes between two and three months to get a CIR petition question approved by the Clerk of the House it may be wise to begin the application as soon as possible even before we have gained sufficient responses to know how much support we have.

    I do not want to act alone nor independently, but I know from past experience that sometimes you can’t wait until you have enough volunteers and money before you start out, otherwise nothing gets done.
    Please drop me an email if you have any thoughts,

    Warm regards,
    Larry Baldock
    PS. I have just received an invitation to appear on Russel Brown’s TV 7 current affairs show this Thursday evening at 9.10pm for a panel discussion with Brian Edwards. If you want to watch it is free to air TV 7 and Sky digital channel 97.

  • New referendum petition possible

    The Kiwi Party
    Press Release

    Kiwi Party leader Larry Baldock said he is thinking about collecting signatures for another Citizens Initiated Referendum petition.
    Mr Baldock said this time the question might be “Should Members of Parliament as part of good governing ignore a referendum with 87.4% support of the people?”

    Asked whether he thought this would have widespread support Mr Baldock said, “almost certainly! Because so many were frustrated about democracy being undermined by the Prime Minister the huge task of collecting more than 300,000 signatures would be made easier than last time.”

    “However there is always the risk that after obtaining sufficient signatures again to force a referendum, and achieving a huge ‘No’ vote, there may be some who will complain that the question is confusing, loaded or misleading.

    “What is good governing they will ask, and how can anyone ‘really’ know what the voters ‘really’ mean?

    After all, how can anyone know what ‘good governing is’ since New Zealanders have not seen it for such a long time!”

    Ends

    Contact
    Larry Baldock
    021864833

  • Democracy in danger?

    The Kiwi Party
    Press Release

    “The final results announced yesterday by the Chief Electoral Office show that more New Zealanders took part in the Smacking referendum than the 1992 MMP referendum,” said Kiwi Party Leader Larry Baldock.

    Compare smacking referendum with MMP referendum

    Smacking Referendum
    56.09%  took part
    87.40%  voted NO

    MMP  Referendum Sept 1992
    55%  took part
    85%  voted for change

    Following the MMP referendum, Labour leader Mike Moore said “The people didn’t speak on Saturday, they screamed.”

    “As a nation we changed our voting system with less of a mandate than was given to our politicians last Friday.

    “Instead of sending troops to Afghanistan to fight for democracy, maybe we should send them to Wellington!

    “Instead of Fiji being suspended from the Pacific Forum,for ignoring the Democratic will of the people, perhaps New Zealand should be suspended…..?

    Ends

    Contact Larry Baldock
    021864833

  • ACT: Key’s ‘huge mistake’ will cost National

    ACT: Key’s ‘huge mistake’ will cost National

    Tue, 25 Aug 2009 5:17a.m. Prime Minister John Key has made “a huge mistake” by refusing to change the so-called anti-smacking law and National will suffer for it at the next election, the ACT Party says.

    “He is making exactly the same mistake as Helen Clark made – he is putting himself above the overwhelming wish of the majority of New Zealanders,” MP John Boscawen told NZPA.

    “I think he’s making a very stupid mistake”.

    Mr Key yesterday said he was going to ensure parents were not prosecuted for an inconsequential smack but he wasn’t going to change the law in response to the referendum result.

    Voters faced the question: “Should a smack as part of good parental correction by a criminal offence in New Zealand?”

    About 1.6 million ticked the boxes and nearly 88 percent said “no”.

    Mr Key said changes were likely to the way welfare officers handled complaints about light smacking and police would be asked to review their procedures to make sure good parents weren’t treated like criminals.

    “I am not going to allow that to happen to them and if the law shows, through its application, that New Zealand parents are criminalised or their children are taken off them in some bizarre case for what could only be described as minor or inconsequential smacking, then the law has to be changed,” he said.

    But the facts showed people were not being prosecuted and he wanted to find ways to assure parents that was not going to start happening.

    Mr Boscawen said the referendum result was a clear, emphatic vote for the law to be changed.

    “I think he’s taking a very grave risk in ignoring such a massive mandate for a change to the law,” he said.

    “I think he’s being very foolish, his response is totally inadequate and he’s making a huge mistake.”

    Mr Boscawen said National’s poll ratings would drop and the impact would carry through to the next election.

    Family First, one of the referendum’s main promoters, said MPs and ministers were receiving floods of e-mails demanding a law change.

    “The referendum wasn’t about recommendations, guidelines or comfort – it was about a law change,” said Family First director Bob McCoskrie.

  • Govt won’t support ACT smacking bill

    Govt won’t support ACT smacking bill

    By TRACY WATKINS – The Dominion Post

    John Boscawen and Sue Bradford
    John Boscawen and Sue Bradford

    Prime Minister John Key has ruled out supporting an ACT bill urging the repeal of so-called anti-smacking laws.

    The member’s bill, put up by ACT MP John Boscawen, was drawn from the ballot today.

    It threatened to revive the divisive smacking debate just days after a referendum resoundingly backed the right of parents to smack.

    But Mr Key today scotched any likelihood of the bill passing its first parliamentary vote by declaring National’s opposition.

    Labour is also likely to oppose the bill when it comes up for debate in a few weeks.